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Wed, 13 January 2010 11:05  |
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I was just wondering. I am myself interested in most of them, except alpine downhill, super-G and slalom to be honest.
I guess wintersports are only interesting for people who live in North, east and central europe, as well as great parts of Asia (direction north) and Canada and the North of the US (Alaska comes to mind).
I especially like to watch skiing, biathlon, and many other winter sports (even curling, though not very physical).
I don`t like hockey at all.
Magnus K.
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Wed, 13 January 2010 12:35   |
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| whodey wrote on Wed, 13 January 2010 11:29 | Oh well, I am afraid we'll have to disagree again
I love to watch downhill, Super-G and slalom. I find it a lot more exciting as a spectator sport than cross-country skiing, although I as a sport itself it is also something I like.
In Austria, growing up, we did both. Curling is actually fun to watch, I love those little brooms swishing over the ice
My younger son played ice hockey, because apparently the torn ACL he sustained in his left knee playing American football needed to be balanced with a torn ACL in his right one and hockey came in handy
So like American football, I also started out watching ice hockey to learn the rules and to understand why my kids loved playing those violent sports
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Nothing you say surprises me. I am used to people who live in hotter climates, not liking many winter sports except the indoors sports like ice hockey. I guess it is a cultural thing.
When it comes to violent sports, I prefer MMA. It is in my opinion the superior art of all martial types of sports, though I am not sure Ice hockey is very martial (it looks very, very stupid when people in ice hockey hold each other and then hits each other in the head).
I think crosscountry skiing is more exciting than downhill, but that is most likely also something cultural. It is said that Norwegians are born with skiis on their feets, and allthough that is absurd and a downright stupid "sying", it is probably a very cultural phenonama.
Don`t you fancy biathlon either? That has the element of shooting in it, and so it often appeals to people who would not fancy seeing men and women compete as to who can skii the fastest over long distances.
But it is probably not strange that the best athletes in skii sports are from nordic countries (except the Danes of course, they suck hard in winter sports in general), Russia, Germany, Ausstria and eastern europe. There are some good Italian, French and Swiss competitors though, and baltic and, I guess i said so, eastern Europeans. Everyone else tend to suck in it, except that one good American in biathlon.
Since Ice hockey is a small fringe sport in Norway, we also generally suck in that one as well, (just like we suck even more in basketball, which is also a small sport here). It is funny, the Swedes love cross-country and biathlon, but they seldom win ( ). They are quite decent in Ice Hockey though ( )...
Magnus K.
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Wed, 03 February 2010 09:54   |
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He does have style.
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent - Isaac Asimov
Mark of Lewiston
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Sat, 13 February 2010 22:37   |
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Håvard Bøkko 4th place (4.20 behind the superior Sven Kramer) on 5000 metres. That SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
4th place is the worst place of them all
And no medals in todays ski jumping either. Sucks, sucks, sucks!!!
We were supposed to have two medals today. One gold/silver and one silver, but now, none.
Hmm, this looks bad right now.
Oh well, as long as we get more medals than our Arch Enemy Sweden, I`ll be moderatly pleased, even though this allready looks grim from the perspective of a nordic nation...
[Updated on: Sat, 13 February 2010 22:38] Magnus K.
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Sun, 14 February 2010 00:43   |
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Our best woman in Biatlon on a dissapointing 10th place (good for her actually), while our medal hope Tora Berger shot herself out of the competition and ended up on a truly dissapointing 33th place....
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Fortunatly, the Swedish girls ended up outside the podium, so that is a real comfort
Unfortunatly, I have now been watching the Swedish Ice Hockey team (for women actually, which is a strange sport, where the IOC, in their male chauvenistic fashion, denies them the right to actually make a tackle, so there is little action, but a lot of "swinging around on the ice without touching") beat the Swiss, so the night is now officially ruined! Hopefully, they will not reach the finals...
What a start on the Olympics... Moderate Swedish success and Norwegian Desolation. It could only get worse if the Swedes had actually won medals and not only a hockey game...
Anything less than 7 Norwegian gold medals are utterly dissapointing, but I don`t know right now. The first day has been...not so nice...
The Swedes are going to become totally unbearable if they actually end up with as many medals as us. But they won`t. Russia and Canada will end up crushing their males in hockey, and then they only have so many who can take a medal anyway...
I love the Olympics!
I get to be an ultra nationalist for fun!
[Updated on: Sun, 14 February 2010 00:44] Magnus K.
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Sun, 14 February 2010 03:15   |
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It is late at night and I have ended up watching more female Hockey...
Canada-Slovakia. The score is 18-0 at present. I think I shall go to bed soon, as I have problems seeing how this game can actually change much (lol!!!). There are apparantly a bit of a bigger difference in good, decent and just outright horrible (in regards to skills) in female hockey than in the male version.
I still don`t like hockey, but this game had a certain morbid factor which I found quite fascinating. I mean, how much of a massacre can a game end up in?
This is like watching Fedor Emilianenkov murder his opponents in MMA. Overkill...
Hmm, only 2.5 min left. I shall watch till the end of this bloodletting, just to see if it will be 20-0....
Tsk, tsk. Canada is inefficient. They have not scored in the last 3-4 minuttes. They suck
18-0, how they truly relaxed at the end...
Oh, well, I shall have to call it a night now. It is soon morning after all.
Magnus K.
"The thing that's wrong with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur." -George W. Bush
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Sun, 14 February 2010 06:58   |
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I am learning quite a few things I didn't know around here - like that there is female ice hockey??? And in the Olympics? My God, I must have been stuck under a rock somewhere
On of my sons played ice hockey in high school and became a big fan of the Vancouver Canucks in their glory days with Pavel Bure. And since we are a vary close-knit family and always try to do stuff together, we all became addicted to watching ice hockey. Although the Canucks ended up losing the Stanley Cup to New York that year, they were a fun team to watch and we regularly drove down to Vancouver when on ski vacations in Whistler to watch them play.
But I had honestly never heard of a women's hockey team.
Dont worry, I am sure Norway will get a nice amount of Olympic Medals, they always do. It's a shame that athletes are no longer competing as "amateurs" as it was strictly required before, it gives big and rich countries an advantage, because they more easily provide money so that athletes dont have to have a time-consuming job and can train and state of the art training facilities. And dont even get me started on professional players ( of various sports) in the Olympics. I liked it better when it was just amateurs, it seemed more fair.
I will of course be rooting for Austria in the downhill, super G and slalom - but since you dont like Alpine Skiing anyway, you wont be upset if Austria comes out ahead, right?
I also love ski-jumping, btw, Austria got a bronze medal yesterday ( also a bit disappointing). How about you - like ski-jumping? I remember standing on the ramp in Kitzbuehl, Austria after the Olympics - the view was quite scary from up there.
Good luck, Norway, in all the Nordic disciplines - and enjoy the Olympics, Magnus.
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Mon, 15 February 2010 01:53   |
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| Mark of Lewiston wrote on Sun, 14 February 2010 09:51 | Just a quick note. One of our cable news hosts is VERY upset that there still is no competition for women ski jumping.
Some of the excuses for this are amusing:
*Women are lighter.
*Women are more aerodynamic.
I expect t hear more on this subject this week as my wife and I both find this cable host entertaining.
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We Norwegian are overjoyed that there are good (like among the best) American female ski jumpers. It makes it so that we are no longer alone in fighting the male chauvenistic ways of FIS and IOC. Too many old and conservative men there. They whine about safety, safety and safety, but let them jump with lower speed then, if that is the case (the real case is actually that they fear there are too few good female jumpers, as there are only americans, norwegians and some other few girls spearheading this sport for women).
All of their arguments are crap, and now, the old Norwegian chief, Yggestad (arch conservative and hostile to the thought of female ski jumpers) recently died, and so there will be more progress now (we migth not be the "best" in that sport anymore, but FIS tends to listen to our "men" due to tradition).
Women like Anette Sagen have fought for many years to be allowed to participate just like their male counterparts, but men like Thorbjørn yggestad have been Oh, so worried about their safety.
Really? it is not like their male counterparts are physically strong either. They all look like anorectic feathers anyway, so I don\t see why their "male" musculature will protect them that much...
Magnus K.
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Mon, 15 February 2010 02:11   |
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| whodey wrote on Sun, 14 February 2010 06:58 | I am learning quite a few things I didn't know around here - like that there is female ice hockey??? And in the Olympics? My God, I must have been stuck under a rock somewhere
On of my sons played ice hockey in high school and became a big fan of the Vancouver Canucks in their glory days with Pavel Bure. And since we are a vary close-knit family and always try to do stuff together, we all became addicted to watching ice hockey. Although the Canucks ended up losing the Stanley Cup to New York that year, they were a fun team to watch and we regularly drove down to Vancouver when on ski vacations in Whistler to watch them play.
But I had honestly never heard of a women's hockey team.
Dont worry, I am sure Norway will get a nice amount of Olympic Medals, they always do. It's a shame that athletes are no longer competing as "amateurs" as it was strictly required before, it gives big and rich countries an advantage, because they more easily provide money so that athletes dont have to have a time-consuming job and can train and state of the art training facilities. And dont even get me started on professional players ( of various sports) in the Olympics. I liked it better when it was just amateurs, it seemed more fair.
I will of course be rooting for Austria in the downhill, super G and slalom - but since you dont like Alpine Skiing anyway, you wont be upset if Austria comes out ahead, right?
I also love ski-jumping, btw, Austria got a bronze medal yesterday ( also a bit disappointing). How about you - like ski-jumping? I remember standing on the ramp in Kitzbuehl, Austria after the Olympics - the view was quite scary from up there.
Good luck, Norway, in all the Nordic disciplines - and enjoy the Olympics, Magnus.
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I always love the Olympics! With love, and...with fury
Don\t make me start on todays competitions. We were supposed to have 1 gold and 1gold/silver at least today, but ended up with only one silver in biathlon.
Seriously, the biathlon competition and the combined (ski jump and crosscountry) should have both been canceled. What happened today would NOT have been allowed to happen in the World Cup!
The Vancuover Olympics truly suck in many ways. The Canadians seemingly don`t know anything about ski jumping and they certainly don`t know shit about biathlon.
Firstly, they prepped the biathlon tracks with salt. And then, 10 min after the race started, it started to snow heavilly, and then the sun suddenly came up. Everyone with ANY sort of skiing knowledge knows that would make for a very UNFAIR competition. Thsoe with the 10 first starting numbers had a ridiculous advantage, with the result being that a Frenchman that is FAR FROM ONE OF THE BEST, won with a Norwegian favorite on second place (the king of biathlon, Ole Einar Bjørndalen actually fucked up his shooting and can`t owe it on the weather, and this is true for most of the good Norwegians except two. The Germans and the Russians were FUCKED OVER by the Canadian idiot people arranging this parody). They had start number 1 and 3, i think. Most of the best, started later, and they told horror stories about skiing on asphalt.
Everyone missed a lot in the shootings, including the Germans, Russians, norwegians, and the French favorites. This was because their tighs were full of acid of course...
And the combined competition. They banned the new system (new points system which was created so that it would be "fairer"), the result? Many of the favorites jumped with red arrows in their asses, while others jumped with very, very green arrows. The new system would have added/subtracted points due to speed, wind directions etc., but the IDIOT CANADIANS refused to use the new improved system, with the result that some of the very best had to jump with ABHORRENT wind conditions (getting NO points in compensation!!!), and thus had to start their cross country race 2.30 min behind the leaders...
Yes, some of these people were Norwegian favorites, and yes, I am probably whining. The Canadians truly owe us a medal though...
Yeah, and the Slovenian winner in Biathlon (for women) yesterday was clearly DOPED (not surprisingly, she is Russian but competes for Slovenia).
She had one good result in last years series, adn surprise, surprise, that was in the world Championships, while the rest of her season was relativly crap. Now, she broke her hand a coupple of months ago (no good results this year), and couldn\t train for over a months. She`s been like 16 at her best. And now she suddenly skiies (not schoots) faster than everyone else,and she is suddenly faster than the German, Russian (some Russians are actually good without drugs, be we who follow this sport know who they are, and they are mostly men and ex-Spetsnaz), French and Norwegian and Swedish favorites....
That Russia will even be allowed to arrange the next Winter Olympics is a disgrace, considering how many of their athletes are known cheaters...
The Swede Bjørn Ferry (biathlon) incidently proposed shooting cheaters to the death. He probably exaggerated, but it is clear that the penalties are not grave enough. Among some nations, being a cheater (doping) is seen not as something horrible, instead, some countries (like Russia) have cultures where they reward them and tell them "bad luck that you got caught". That is a VERY different mentallity...
[Updated on: Mon, 15 February 2010 02:37] Magnus K.
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Mon, 15 February 2010 04:03   |
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I don`t know (I don`t really have a strong opinion concerning this) if it is right or wrong, but I have noticed that royals (chiefly princes) and presidents hand out the Olympic medals.
Our king Harald actually used one of his few remaining royal powers, and he refused Crown Prince Håkon Magnus to hand out medals, when the IOC asked. King Harald is of the opinion that this should not be the job of his son to be employed as a "popstar" in this way. King Harald rarely refuses anything at all, but this time he seemed adamant and he just flatly denied the IOC their request (it surprised a lot of Norwegians that he exercised power in this way, as it is truly, truly rare indeed).
I noticed the Danish and Jordanian princes handing out medals. Do people here think that this (handing out medals in olympic games etc.) should be the role of constitutional royalty, or do you agree with the otherwise sport-crazed King Harald that this is none of their business?
The King doesn`t mind that Håkon Magnus is employed and used as a "popstar" in humanitarian NGOs fighting for the environment, aids, malaria, etc., but he did mind him handing out medals in a Canadian Olympic game.
Due to the events of the Olympics, other real news and the offensive in Afghanistan, this only made "small news" in Norway, though I found it slightly interesting, though ultimatly quite unimportant.
Magnus K.
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Thu, 18 February 2010 01:58   |
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| whodey wrote on Wed, 17 February 2010 06:49 | Hi Magnus,
looks like Norway and Austria are equal in the medals count for the time being -
2 Silver, 1 Bronze. Quite disappointing for either of us
You have made it pretty clear that you dont think much of Alpine Skiing, but I love it. I was very disappointed that Austria didn't get any medal in the Men's Downhill. Bummer.
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Jordan's Prince Faisal ( younger brother of King Abdullah) was recently elected to the IOC. Since Jordan is not participating in the Winter Olympics ( I am not sure, but I dont think it ever has) I would imagine that if he is handing out medals, it is in his capacity as IOC member rather than due to his "royal blood".
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Yeah, not good for you, but HORRIBLE AND UFORGIVABLE for us (I am almost inclined to start another agressive rant about the Canadian "hosts", thought as that rant would have a lot to do with everything else than NOrwegian atlethes (the hosts have ruined 1000K Ice skating, and so many other competitions, and they also ruined for some Swedes in biathlon and for BOTH males and women). The entire arrangement in Canada suck Big Time, but I think the Canadians know what we Europeans think of their shitty Olympics by now anyway, so no need for me to explain or give another rant. They get bad press anyway.
Then to your point.
Whodey, dear Whodey, please, please consider what you say. Why do you think your Prince was elected by the IOC? My point earlier was that the IOC had elected our prince as well, (but our king didn`t want to Haakon Magnus to be ON the IOC and be used for medal ceremonies and the like) just like they have elected almost every prince in the world. And you tell me that this has nothing to do with royal blood? Come on!!!
We have got 1 gold and 1 bronze today. That sucked. Two russians won the male sprint, and out of 64 sprint competitions, Norway has not won 8 of those. And all we got was 1 bronze, even though our best were in the final (3 of them, albeit one fell horribly). Of course, I am not going to mention what I think might have been in the blood of those russians who suddenly sprinted like daemons on skii...
[Updated on: Thu, 18 February 2010 01:59] Magnus K.
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Mon, 22 February 2010 01:37   |
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| whodey wrote on Fri, 19 February 2010 22:52 | Congratulations on Svindal winning Gold in the Super-G. If anyone but Austria ( they are having a terrible time in the Olympics this year) had to win it , I am glad it was this nice guy from Norway.
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Thanks! axel was and is, great (it looked like he was going to win today as well, but he drove out in the late part of the slope, which sucked big time)!
And yes, I agree. He is a nice guy, or so I think.
Ausstria is looking thin in alpine skiining (only two or three good skiiers these days), so it is time to do something to get up new blood there.
Our usually totally dominant Cross country team doesn`t like Canada at all , thogh our women do GREAT!!!!!!!
Marit Bjørgen is COMPETLY dominant and is crushing all opposition in the slope. She is totally the strongest, and she so deserves her two gold (se has a history of ups and ugly sad downs, and seeing her cry after ahving to abort a run after stomach problems were not that uncommon). When in form, she is the Queen of skiis though. And right now, she ahs 1 Bronze and 2 Golds in this Olympic.
I just want to say. I actually like alpine skiing and I have watched everything, but yes, Cross Country is higher up there for me.
I think most Norwegians are like that. We rate medals after not necessarilly colour, but rather how cruel and athletic the sport is.
Cross country is THE most athletic sport and thus, such medals counts more than, say, a gold in curling.
Norwegians athletes training cross country, and for the most part, biathlon, train ALL THE TIME, and DAMN hard. It is not like...golf. It is pain, blood, agony and train, train, train, train and TRAIN HARD and learn to ignore muscles screaming in agony.
It is the essence of Olympic arts, and the only true athletic sport in the Winter Olympic. Thus, a bronze medal in such, true, atletich arts, have much, much more hard and grueling work behind them than ice hockey, whatever...
Also, of course, it is our national identity, much more than hockey is Canadian, and so, we must always win, or an olympic is failed, no matter how many other, in our eyes, inferior medals, we eventually grab, in less athletic arts.
[Updated on: Mon, 22 February 2010 01:38] Magnus K.
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Mon, 01 March 2010 17:42   |
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| ODP1 wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 14:53 | I'm happy for the Canadians that they set a record for the number of golds won in an Olympics.
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Well, how to say this. I have all the respect in the world for Canadian athletes, but, and unfortuatly there is a big (huge actually) but.
The "Own the Podium program" sidelines Canada with the DDR and the Soviet Union in terms of sportsmansship. Considering that program, I have a hard time congratulating Canada for a reccord ammount of gold medals.
We saw this is all sports branches in the Olympics. Foreign athletes had been banned from training in any Canadian track, hill or slope for over two years. This was done to grant Canada a huge advantage, and it was thus karmic jusitice that all of their alpine skiiers flopped.
Really, there is so much nice things to say about Canada and Canadians, but truly, what they did in this Olympic was totally unforgivble and will make Russia (of all places) in 1014 become the epitome of sportsmansship in comparison.
It is a bad sign when the IOC pleads with Norwegian and German ministers, begging them to apply for the next Winter olympics (considering this was done in the middle of the games).
This winter Olympics was never the "fair" game among competitiors it was supposed to be.
And, by the way, the Georgian slider had most probably never died had he, and others, been allowed to actually train on that fast track prior to the games.
Congratualtions to the USA for grabbing the most medals. Canada, it is much harder to congratulate after this "game of shame".
The number of Canadian medals attributed to having unfair advanages is unknown (though surely a lot), but it is a mark of shame that a fantastic Canadian crowd can not erase from the memory of those interested in winter sports.
In addition to the shameful anti-competition program, there was of course many, many huge problems with these games, all attributed to the Canadian IOC (Biathlon, ski jumping and ice skating races were ruined due to horrible administration, and those are only the tip of the ice berg problems).
The Brits in their disinterest for winter sports, foucused their schating critiscism on less important matters, like logistics etc. The Brits were actually way too nice, albeit for the wrong reason
On the +side, these games are thought to have been one of the cleanest (albeit, the Canadians can hardly be given credit for this).
The reason for this, most suspect, is the fact that Russia and others have been given crystal clear warnings concerning doping, and as we all know, Rusia is arranging the Sochi games. The lack of Russian medals, and the withdrawal of their entire sprint team in cross country can only be attributed to one factor alone. Lack of doping...
[Updated on: Mon, 01 March 2010 17:44] Magnus K.
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| Mark of Lewiston wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 05:02 | I guess they are finishing up tonight. Too bad they had so little snow.
I really got a kick out of the scandal - Canadian women hockey players drink beer! Horrors!!!
And it looks like the Canadian NHL All-Stars outplayed the American NHL All-Stars for the Hockey Gold.
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The Olympics is old fashioned in that alcohol and (sports, especially the Olympics) the olympics is supposed to be very, very apart.
However, it was not the alcohol and the cigars (on the olympic arena) that was the problem, but the fact that one of those drinking on the ice was a minor in regards to Canadian law.
Though honestly, I couldn\t care less. Still, it is not something they are "supposed" to do, you know.
[Updated on: Mon, 01 March 2010 18:46] Magnus K.
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| whodey wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 07:16 | Congratulations, Magnus I am sure you would have wanted Norway to finish in the first three maybe, but I think Norway did very well in the Olympics. Plus, where individual athletes are concerned, the first two athletes with the most medals are Norwegians ( Bjorgen and Northug).
I am rather disappointed for Austria, fifth place is barely respectable in the Winter Olympics. Even if just taking the Alpine Skiing disciplines, where we ranked third, we still come in AFTER Norway - and you guys dont even have Alps
Oh well, maybe I am still around in 2014 and we'll do better.
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I am more than moderatly pleased, allthough we should have had more like 30 medals given how strong Norwegian nordic teams are in the world cups. 9 golds is nice, but we have way too few silver and bronze to be really happy about this.
It betrays for instance that behind Petter Northug, we do not have a truly competitive team in cross country (non-sprint, as we have a terrific sprint team). The women team is better than ever (or since the 80s), but considering our resources and lay of land, we expect a lot more from our cross country skiiers. Some of them seemed unwilling to bleed and vomit for a medal, and then, there is something wrong.
In Nordic combined, we sucked big time, and this does not reflect the team, which is usually a lt better (Moan has won the last world cup races). But then again, nordic combined was among the races that the Canadian "hosts" some what ruined, as the wind conditions were the most unfavorable I have ever seen (from excellent to outright horrible), and yet, they went through with the races.
Ice skating. Dissapointing. But we never expected great sucess, though perhaps a bit more than an individual bronze for Bøkko.
Alpine. Fantastic, as even kjetil jansrud got a silver in giant slalom, and Axel was the king of course (though the foreign media focuses on that american woman who won a lot less, for some strange reason). We only had one girl (Løseth) in among the women and she got a ninth place and 13 place, which was much, much better than expected. she is not even 19 yet, so she will grow.
Lol, curling Silver is excellent. The Canadians have the beter team. Fancy pants did very, very well though 
Ski Cross. New sport in Norway, and we got one silver and one bronze. That is excellent.
Snowboard. we have been left behind. Only one pipe in norway and it is no longer good enough to train on (the pipes re bigger nowadays). we must build a lot more, or else, we can only compete in snowboard cross. Long gone are the days of Terje Håkonsen and Daniel Franck.
Ski jumping. we suck, but it was worse than expected. One bronze for the team, no individual medals at all.
Hockey. I am amazed they did so well, considering the number of ice halls here. And still, their results look bad, though a closer than close loss against Slovakia is admirable, considering their NHL stars. Hockey means little for most Norwegians though, and so the results is okay. Sweden has reason to be a lot more grumpy than us, consider their loss to...slovakia...
I probabably forgot something, but...
Ausstria. Well, Whodey, the number of medals is not that horrible considering that Ausstria missed all medal chances in alpine skiing, type men. I am sorry about that though, Benjamin Reich really deserved a medal.
If this continues, the USA will have more total medals than us after a few Olympics (it will continue).
Untill that time, we still rank highest, though that is meagre confort. The US just pumps in too much money in too many obscure winter sports, and they have top competitors in all kinds of sports. We are barely holding on to being competitive in traditional winter sports.
Anyway, Northug did win the 50km, and that is the toughest event of the olympics, ice Hockey and bobsleights be damned 
[Updated on: Mon, 01 March 2010 18:47] Magnus K.
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| Einherjar wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 17:42 |
The "Own the Podium program" sidelines Canada with the DDR and the Soviet Union in terms of sportsmansship. Considering that program, I have a hard time congratulating Canada for a reccord ammount of gold medals.
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I don't understand. This isn't common?
I thought the program was funding to produce the best stars? Isn't that what the US, China and other countries(I would have sworn it was all of them) do?
[Updated on: Mon, 01 March 2010 18:29] "The idea of a two state solution is strongly supported [by Pals] but only if the border is the 1967 border and refugees are given the right of return. The question is what type of two state solution [is supported]?"- Dr Jabil Rabah Near East Consulting
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| ODP1 wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 18:28 |
| Einherjar wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 17:42 |
The "Own the Podium program" sidelines Canada with the DDR and the Soviet Union in terms of sportsmansship. Considering that program, I have a hard time congratulating Canada for a reccord ammount of gold medals.
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I don't understand. This isn't common?
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Common!!!???
Of course it is not common, it is worse than doping in the eyes of most. No country with any respect for itself or winter sports would ever do this, and as far as I know, no one but, perhaps, the US (which provoked outrage as well) have done this earlier.
In northern europe (and I suspect, in all other countries which do winter sports, including perhaps even Russia, now that it is no longer the Soviet Union) it is seen as exceptionally dishonourable and the epithome of bad sportsmanship.
[Updated on: Mon, 01 March 2010 18:40] Magnus K.
"The thing that's wrong with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur." -George W. Bush
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It is the exact opposite of the vaunted "olympic spirit" of free and fair competitions.
I feel like adding that there is a preassure now on the IOC to clap down on these sorts of programs. And the IOC is not at all happy with how this was done.
[Updated on: Mon, 01 March 2010 18:42] Magnus K.
"The thing that's wrong with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur." -George W. Bush
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Mon, 01 March 2010 19:13   |
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| Einherjar wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 18:32 |
| ODP1 wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 18:28 |
| Einherjar wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 17:42 |
The "Own the Podium program" sidelines Canada with the DDR and the Soviet Union in terms of sportsmansship. Considering that program, I have a hard time congratulating Canada for a reccord ammount of gold medals.
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I don't understand. This isn't common?
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Common!!!???
Of course it is not common, it is worse than doping in the eyes of most. No country with any respect for itself or winter sports would ever do this, and as far as I know, no one but, perhaps, the US (which provoked outrage as well) have done this earlier.
In northern europe (and I suspect, in all other countries which do winter sports, including perhaps even Russia, now that it is no longer the Soviet Union) it is seen as exceptionally dishonourable and the epithome of bad sportsmanship.
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Maybe my understanding of the "Own the Podium" program is flawed.
"The idea of a two state solution is strongly supported [by Pals] but only if the border is the 1967 border and refugees are given the right of return. The question is what type of two state solution [is supported]?"- Dr Jabil Rabah Near East Consulting
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| ODP1 wrote on Mon, 01 March 2010 19:18 | "What's wrong with wanting your country to win? It's easier to define a nation's character by hard numbers and medal counts than it is with vague concepts like multiculturalism and decency and good government.
"Sport is easy to understand," Dr. Jackson says. "And easy to measure."
And is there anything wrong with wanting your country to thrash all the other countries at the Olympics? Australia and Britain spend two and three times what Canada does developing world-class athletes. They win two and three times as many medals. The arithmetic is callously simple. "
http://www.ctvolympics.ca/news-centre/newsid=39525.html
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I think you have misunderstood.
I was angry and I reacted to the unsportsmanslike "own the podium program", not the MONEY. I reacted to the despicable program that denied foreign athletes to train in Vancouver slopes, tracks and hills for years ahead of the Olympics. That among other unsportsmanlike issues (I did write about this earlier) makes many of those medals seem undeserved to many.
Magnus K.
"The thing that's wrong with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur." -George W. Bush
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Fri, 05 March 2010 13:24  |
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| Einherjar wrote on Thu, 04 March 2010 18:15 |
I think you have misunderstood.
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I'll go with ill-informed.
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I reacted to the despicable program that denied foreign athletes to train in Vancouver slopes, tracks and hills for years ahead of the Olympics.
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Oh. I didn't hear about that. I just heard about the money. I don't think the US does that although I don't really know.
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